Paint Sprayers – Home Repair Podcast

welcome to fix-it home improvement of covering projects that every homeowner should know and great products for home and garden this week we're gonna be talking about paint sprayers and we'd like to thank adolfo nunzio for liking and sharing the podcast and also for suggesting this topic book 5 is now on Amazon it's called home improvement solutions what every homeowner should know book 5 and if you've downloaded a copy we'd really appreciate a review if you have the time in 1887 Joseph Binks developed one of the first spray guns for his maintenance crew to speed up the painting of the basement in Marshall Fields did it yes he loved it it had a small hand operated pump and a hose that went to a cup style spray gun in 1893 the Chicago World's Fair used his spray guns to whitewash many of the buildings made out of plaster and cement city yes and that whitewash he made was a blend of oil and white lead Francis millet invented a spray gun in 1892 he was a painter and a sculptor who died on the Titanic in 1912 and in a letter he wrote while he was on the Titanic he said he didn't like American women he called them obnoxious and ostentatious you know at the Chicago World's Fair they had an exact replica of an ancient Viking ship it was built in Norway and they sailed to the US with 12 men and this is back when they didn't have radios or GPS and you can see you can still see that original ship in Geneva Illinois and they also have an authentic Dutch windmill from the 1850s in Geneva so if you're in Illinois we are the two main types of paint sprayers you're going to find at home centers or hardware stores our airless an HVLP what's high volume low pressure so it has a high volume of air at low pressure so you have good paint flow coming out of the gun at low pressure so there's not a lot of overspray what is that so the overspray is paint that's not sticking to where you want it to so it can be a mist in the air or particles that are landing on areas you don't want it and if you have a high pressure spray gun like airless there's a lot of paint spray that can miss the object you're trying to paint like if you're painting a fence the spaces between it or you can get bounce back and a lot of people call that overspray so paint can hit the object so hard that it actually bounces off and it creates waste and paint in the air I worked for a spray paint company for a couple of years and we use traditional pneumatic cup sprayers and they were powered by an air compressor we were using automotive paints to refinish cabinets and appliances and with that Cup style it's a handheld sprayer that has a container or a cup that's holding your paint or stain with most of the handheld paint sprayers for homeowners you're gonna find in a home center or a hardware store you have the turbine or the pump that's part of the gun and that's moving the paint so you don't need a compressor you just plug it in or it could be cordless some of the portable spray systems have a turbine that's setting on the floor and then you have an air hose to the handheld cup gun and with that style it's gonna be a little lighter okay stationary paint sprayers will have a pump that sits on the ground with a suction tube to draw paint out of a one or five gallon paint container and you have a paint hose that's delivering the paint to a spray gun without a cup so it's gonna be much lighter these systems are airless so the paint is forced under high pressure into this paint hose and the tip of the gun atomizes the paint without being mixed with air although now there's new air assist airless sprayer so that's crazy so they're lower pressure and there's less overspray so it's primarily airless as its putting the paint under pressure but they can reduce the pressure because they inject just a small amount of air at the tip and with the air list you have a very wide spray you can apply a lot of paint very quickly and these are great for painting walls siding ceilings decks doors any large surface do the airless squares have initials that they go by too like air assists airless sprayer would be AAAS what's convenient about the airless sprayer x' is the gun can be held at any angle and then you can add extensions onto the tip so it extends your reach for ceilings and decks with many of the handheld HVLP paint sprayers you'd want to keep the gun in an upright position and tilted no more than a 45 degree angle up or down and the HVLP guns mix air with the paint at the tip to atomized the paint so you can spray at lower pressure for medium and small projects so the HVLP they're great for cabinets doors furniture trim fences you can also use them for walls and decks and siding it's just gonna take a little longer than airless but it's gonna be faster than a brush or a roller okay most airless systems are great to spray any type of paint or stain without having to thin it because of the high pressure and many of the new HVLP paint sprayers will spray latex paint without big thin but some pros are recommending thinning based on the paint manufacturers recommendations and it's going to give you better paint flow the multiple speed or variable speed HVLP sprayer czar gonna work best with latex undiluted because they're more powerful some sprayers are just designed for thin stains and sealers so check the label when you're comparing a sprayer that can spray any unthink paint is going to be the most versatile if you're in an area with a home center or a paint store you should try out the display models the triggers on each model are gonna be different especially with the handheld so some are going to be easier to use if you have large hands some only allow you to get one finger on the trigger others you can get multiple fingers and believe it or not it's easier to use and there's less strain for big projects if you can get a few fingers on the trigger cup gun style you're gonna have that quart of paint usually it's around a quart so over time it can get heavy you can support that with the other hand or if you think it's gonna be hard to hold up that I guess you practice you know go to the paint store and hold up a quart of paint for a while see how heavy it is cuz you've got the turbine on top trigger so the style where you have the turbine on the floor or the airless where it's stationary those are going to be lighter you just have the gun itself you don't have the you know the motor and that paint that you're trying to hold up for large projects with stationary airless sprayer you're gonna use a spray tip to control the width and the flow of the paint spray and you would change the tip depending on your project what do the tips look like most we're going to be t-shaped and face one direction to spray and then if you get a cloud you can reverse it to clear the clog and the tips are gonna wear over time and need to be replaced so the solids and the paints are actually slowly widening the opening and reducing the width of the spray pattern it can cause lines in the spray pattern too and imperfections the spray tips are gonna have three numbers the first number is the width of the spray and whatever that first number is you double it to get the width so a 515 tip would have a 10 inch fan width because first number is 5 and the last two numbers are the size of the tip opening in thousandths of an inch 5 15 is a popular tip size for painting a tip size of point zero zero nine point zero 1 1 and point zero one three would be for thinner material it stains point zero one three point zero one five for oil based paints point zero one five and point zero one nine for latex paints and for heavy latex you'd use something bigger like a point zero two one or a point zero two five and many paint companies will have the recommendations of the tip size on the label for airless sprayer like what so I looked at a couple of paint labels from Glidden paint and once said for airless applications use a tip point zero one five two point zero two one at 1500 to 2000 psi a label on bear paints said for airless spraying point zero one five to a point zero to one two then at no more than a half a pint per gallon and I'm sure when Williams paint they said for airless spraying is a tip point zero one five two point zero one nine at two thousand psi and thinit no more than ten ounces per gallon how would you send the paint so it depends on the paint you're using if you're spraying a latex paint you'd thin it with water if you're spraying an oil-based paint it's usually mineral spirits but I would check the label for what they recommend but like where are you thinning the paint so if you're spraying a lot so let's say you're gonna spray a gallon or more I would get a five-gallon bucket well good you're good you're gonna pour your gallon of paint in there let's say if a gallon containers and then you would add Sherwin Williams for example they say thin it no more than ten ounces per gallon I would probably start out it half that so take five ounces of water and then stir it thoroughly take a scrap piece of drywall or some cardboard and then spray it because you don't want it too thin or it's gonna start to run and say okay one other thing with the airless sprayer is make sure the units off and it has a trigger lock on when you're replacing your tips there's a tip guard to keep your skin away from the tip these high-pressure airless spray guns can inject paint under your skin and cause poisoning and if you do get paint sprayed into your skin you need to get to a doctor immediately really yeah the handheld HVLP sprayer x' will have an adjustable nozzle to create the spray pattern or interchangeable nozzles rather than spray tips some of the wagner sprayers have a lever on the nozzle to adjust the width of the spray and then a ring to turn it horizontal or vertical the home write spray guns have a nozzle tip or needles that you change to adjust the spray pattern okay how do you know what type of paint sprayers best for your project so I went to the three home centers around here in Chicago and the signage was pretty good at all the stores one had a flip chart and you would match the projects the type of sprayer one had shelf signs with the details about each sprayer and then one had large signage with color-coordinated tags to match the sprayer to your most common project so for example if you're only gonna be a deck or a fence you can get a less expensive model but it's not gonna spray undiluted latex paint okay and then you can kind of match up what you're gonna be doing to the sprayer and the packaging was pretty good on all of them also Wagner has their handheld sprayers grouped by series their craft series is for small projects and thin decorative paints like chalk or milk paint you can you also use this for stains and sealers and they say you may have to dilute some of the craft paints so milk paint is made from milk lime and colorant some people actually create their own formula for crafts it's been used for thousands of years the ancient Egyptians they love the milk paint Martha Stewart has a recipe the juice of one lemon one quart of skimmed milk mixed and left in a bowl overnight and this induces curdling then you pour this liquid through a cheesecloth the next day and you take that curdled part of the milk you add some color into it so you can use four teaspoon she says of a dry color pigment and then you thin this with water and you create your own paint it's a throwback if you're gonna be painting something that looks antique why not use an antique paint and then chalk paint is made with plaster of Paris the Wagner control series is primarily for stains and thin material some of the sprayers in that series can be used with some paints and it's an HVLP sprayer the flexi o-series it's flex2play undiluted latex and oil paints and they say the oil paints have to be thinned with mineral spirits some of the oil-based paints they don't want used in the spray gun and in that flexi o-line they have handheld with the turbine built into the gun or portable the turbines stationary on the ground and air hose to an HVLP spray gun with a cup Wagner also has an airless series for handheld and this can be used with all paints and stains and the cup gun also can use a attachment so you can draw paint directly from a paint can or a bucket they have a backpack attachment for carrying paint pretty good for ladders and the airless has a flexible suction tube inside the cups so you can tilt that gun more than 45 degrees home right has HVLP handheld sprayers in two categories they're Finnish Max is for small and medium projects and crafts you may have to thin some paints there super Finnish max is more powerful and this is gonna spray most paints undiluted home right has handheld airless spray is the light duty is for staining only so for like fences and furniture and decks it has a tilting suction tube for better spray angles there medium duty titanium series is for all paints and stains although they say you may have to thin some paints they're heavy-duty titanium is for big projects and all paints undiluted and those titanium guns all have the Flex suction tube Greco GRA CEO has handheld airless sprayer z' their DIY series is for homeowners their trucoat 360 is one speed and the trucoat 360 D s is dual speed so there's two different speeds and they have a very unique flexible liner that doesn't have a long siphon tube like other sprayers you fill the bag and you open a valve and you squeeze out the air in the bag you can place the cap you turn the spray control to prime and you spray into a five-gallon bucket for a few seconds then you turn the spray control to spray and the bag slowly collapses as you use the gun and you can spray undiluted paint and stain and spray in any direction so very unique it uses a spray tip similar to stationary airless guns and they also have a cordless handheld sprayer Wagner home right and Graco all have small stationary airless paint sprayers for homeowners also okay if you're getting a spray gun for crafts Wagner and home right both have spray booths or little tents that you can set up here so you can put your project inside this and that's going to keep the overspray from going all over for larger projects you'd want to prep and protect the area around what you're going to be spraying so use drop Clause painters tape and masking paper the company try make oh it's t RI ma Co has a pre-taped masking called ez mask tape and drape it's a thin plastic film that comes in a variety of widths it has a static cling to it so it's gonna stick itself to walls and ceilings doors and windows and other surfaces and it actually helps attract overspray so this is fantastic to mask off your ceiling if you're painting walls or vice versa I read that you could use this outside even on windy days really it's even better than I thought if you're spraying inside you want to make sure you have good ventilation use a respirator dual strap and a carbon layer for odor reduction or a respirator with replaceable cartridges for organic vapors before you load up your guns stir the paint or stain very well and use a paint strainer to catch any large particles and read the manual for the set up some sprayers you need to prime them first you should practice on a cardboard or scrap a wood or drywall to get a feel for the distance you need to be and how fast you need to move the gun a couple of cardboard boxes are actually a great surface to practice on you can practice your you know painting an inside and outside corner you can vary your spray patterns between horizontal and vertical and see how much paint you're putting on practice changing the width of the spray the paint flow rate and the power settings because you don't want to practice that on the wall or if you're doing furniture when you're spraying walls you want to move the gun parallel to the surface pointed at the wall you don't want to pivot the gun at angles you're gonna get uneven coverage you should hit the corners first and by spraying into the corner you're gonna get paint on to both sides of the wall and it's gonna kind of give you a first coat if you try to let's say you're going from side to side if you start in the corner and then move off it and then come back and you move from the corner to the opposite wall you can get too much paint in the corner right so start from the corners let's say you're going from side to side you'd want to go about three feet and then you're going to overlap it so let's say you're spraying down underneath that you want to overlap your spray by about 50% and then keep the nozzle 6 to 12 inches from the surface depending on the type of gun and the pressure you have the more comfortable you get you'll get a little closer you're gonna get a better finish but you need to develop that control before you get too close you could say eggs similar to using spray paint yeah very similar concept and you can either go left to right or top to bottom some pros recommend putting one thin coat on from side to side and then come back and put a second coat from top to bottom and you're going to get the best finish some of the guns need to be triggered partially to start the turbine and then fully to spray you want to start moving your gun as soon as you trigger it on and keep moving it as you end your stroke that way you can blend the paint when you're painting objects like a door you want to start before the edge of the door and then and past the door so that you're getting uniform coat on it and on surfaces like a fence you'd want to start at an angle to catch the edge and then do the flat surface and then you do another pass on the angle on the other side if you have a handheld sprayer with a suction tube in the cup you're gonna position it forward in the cup if you're spraying forward or down you'd position it backward for spraying up and usually you're gonna have a maximum angle of 45 degrees on most one of the complaints I saw on a few of the reviews for the paint sprayers was the paint is either running or sagging and generally that happens if you're too close to the surface your paint flow is too high so you can adjust that and then if you're just moving the gun too slow you're getting too much paint in one area or you've over thinned your paint go back outside and practice good get a box another complaint I saw was clogs and spitting so make sure you're running your paint through a filter before you put it into your gun so if you're using a cup you'd probably use a cone filter or or just put a filter bag over the your paint and that way it's filtering out any particles okay if you have larger containers you may want to use a clean bucket and then pour your paint through a filter into the clean bucket and then check your nozzle or the guards for a build of a paint and have a rag to keep those clean okay once you're done painting clean up the gun right away it's gonna be easier and better for the gun and check your manual to see if any parts need lubrication and how often and check your air filters what are some top rated companies in home centers and hardware stores Wagner whe and the R Greco GRA co home right and it's spelled just like you think hom e RI ght Fuji fu ji and tighten TI ta N and for small paint sprayers praval it's PR e v al and if you just need a small sprayer for crafts or touch-up or if you're repainting fixtures that prove all sprayers pretty interesting it has a glass bottle that you can fill with interior exterior paint stains or sealers you put on this cap they call it a power unit so it's an aerosol it draws the paint or the stain up this tube that's inside the glass bottle it doesn't mix with the propellants so there's no color change and it puts out just a very professional spray so it's like having a spray can but you can mix it with any paint that you want so like a custom paint yeah it does pretty good job and you find that in hardware stores do you have anything else to add when you're shopping you want to match the sprayer to the type of projects you're gonna be using it on the HVLP handheld sprayers are easy to control there's less overspray and the guns rated for all paints and stains undiluted are going to be the most versatile and variable speed is going to give you more control the airless handhelds are more powerful and you can use it at more angles the stationary airless you're going to have more paint flow wider paint spray you can use the gun at any angle and these are best for large projects let's wrap this up you can subscribe to her podcast on Apple podcasts google podcasts cash box player FM or your favorite podcast you can check out our home improvement videos on our YouTube channel fix it home improvement as well you can download her books home improvement solutions what every homeowner should know on Amazon you can email us at fix-it podcast at 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